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Re: Math is hard

Zusterke — Fri, 08 May 2009 04:10:13 -0000

I wasn't aware in your previous posts that you had it miscalculated. Perhaps you valued haste higher because of it? Hmm. Still going to lurk on your blog :) I wanna know where you're going with this.

Anyways, an interesting point: various sources of haste stack multiplicatively for your cast time but it doesn't stop there. When checking your throughput you get:
new hps = (old_base_heal/old_base_time) (1 + haste1) (1+haste2)... (1+crit/2) etc..
So in terms of throughput, your sources of haste aren't just multiplicative with eachother but with all factors that increase your throughput (including SP). As they are a product, the largest product can be created by balancing the stats (not just A > B but A/B = best ratio). And this balance is quite easy to work out! Since all your throughput stats gain equally from borrowed time & enlightment, you will obtain the same ratio whether you include them or not. You can work out the balance between haste, SP, crit etc without BT and Enl.
(Unless you hit the softcap)

Maths can be fun, no? :)

Re: Math is hard

BobTurkey — Thu, 07 May 2009 18:48:13 -0000

Well there you go. That alone is pretty good reason to use lots of instants (PW:S).

I was confused probably because I tend to run around like i'm in the wild west with a pair of +505 haste on proc trinkets (Egg and Embrace).

A little niggling voice deep down the back of my brain is wondering how long before instant casts consume Borrowed Time.

Re: Math is hard

Rilgon Arcsinh — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:13:47 -0000

As a lowbie Disc Priest with no Haste outside of Enlightenment, I can DEFINITELY feel the difference between a GCD after Borrowed Time and one without it.

Yeah, yeah, doing theorycraft off of "feeling" isn't the best way to do it, but you can definitely feel the difference when you have very little natural haste.

Re: Math is hard

Chris Anthony — Wed, 06 May 2009 06:53:42 -0000

I didn't mean to imply that it was hard! :) Just that I've been going around thinking that pretty much all I needed was the buff food, and that's not right. :)

As for Borrowed Time, see above; my experience and the tooltip bear out BT's affecting the global cooldown.

Re: Math is hard

Chris Anthony — Wed, 06 May 2009 06:52:28 -0000

In my experience, yes, it does. The tooltip is pretty explicit, too: it grants 25% spell haste, not a 25% cast time reduction or something else that sounds like spell haste but has a slightly different meaning.

Re: Math is hard

jedimax — Wed, 06 May 2009 05:51:37 -0000

433 Haste is not hard. I have 470 Haste Rating in Naxx-Gear ( http://eu.wowarmory.com/cha... ). So its easy doable.

And i think (like bob) that this BT doesnt affect GCD

Re: Math is hard

BobTurkey — Tue, 05 May 2009 23:59:18 -0000

Are you sure Borrowed Time effects the GCD? I don't think it does, but I might be wrong.